Crossing The Line
March 16th, 2009 by Admin
When Barack Obama was declared Supreme President of the Universe (I actually saw an Obama shirt with that on it in Florida), I decided that I would support him regardless of the fact that I didn't vote for him and didn't like his policies. Even since then, while I've disagreed with many of his policies (see www.militarypundits.com) I've supported him as my Commander In Chief. But, that support is becoming more and more difficult to maintain as a Soldier and I'm seriously questioning my further service within the military under this leadership. If my leadership doesn't support me, how can I support them? This is proof positive that President Obama does not care about the troops. He sends out his wife because he is too disgusted to be in our presence unless he is announcing failure and withdrawal, thinking that's what we want to hear.
Mr. Obama, who the hell do you think you are to turn your back on our troops who fought the nation's war, defended our freedom, and pursued our interests abroad and were injured in the process?! Billing our wounded warriors?! Are you F*#@ing serious?!
Posted in Military PerspectiveThe leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."
The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"
Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group's early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, " There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran's personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable."
Commander Rehbein reiterated points made last week in testimony to both House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees. It was stated then that The American Legion believes that the reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate that VA treat service-connected injuries and disabilities given that the United States government sends members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.
"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue. The American Legion has long advocated for Medicare reimbursement to VA for the treatment of veterans. This, we believe, would more easily meet the President's financial goal. We will present that idea in an anticipated conference call with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel in the near future.
"I only hope the administration will really listen to us then. This matter has far more serious ramifications than the President is imagining," concluded the Commander.

I don't know that I could be more outraged than I am right now about this….
cj:
Instead of throwing a temper tantrum filled with ad hominem and threats to quit your job, maybe you should propose something else.
I doubt calling Obama names is going to get you very far!
CF, "something else" was proposed numerous times, but "mr know it all (and his friend nancy)" won't listen. We could actually discuss things on this blog but you prefer to resort to talking points.
Rid this site of this troll……
Yeah I should've learned from you since I saw how far calling Bush names got you. But, I'm sure that was different in your mind and absolutely acceptable behavior.
cj:
Bush deserved whatever he was called and more. Indeed, how funny is it that neither Bush nor Cheney will ever be able to travel freely abroad for fear that they will be arrested on the spot and subsequently prosecuted for crimes against humanity. Obama has a long way to go to top that feat!
According to you! And according to me, Obama deserves it. There, that was easy. I just realized if I use YOUR logic I can get away with any type of stupidity.
By Pam Schuffert
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STAFF SERGEANT/ARMY RANGER/SPEC OPS MAN FROM FORT LEWIS WASHINGTON THAT I JUST MET WHILE TRAVELING FROM MONTANA TO NORTH CAROLINA REVEALS:
'THE GUILLOTINES ARE REAL AND I WAS GOING TO TRAIN MY MEN IN MY PLATOON TO USE THEM NEXT WEEK IN HIGHLY CLASSIFIED OPERATIONS AT FORT LEWIS…UNTIL YOU TOLD ME 'THEY WILL BE USED ON YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS UNDER COMING MARTIAL LAW!"
NOW he and the men who he told about my reporting, on HOW the guillotines will be used against their fellow Americans, ARE BEING ROUNDED UP AND HUNTED DOWN LIKE DOGS..
Humvees and helicopters surrounging their homes…military pay and all access to bank accounts and credit cards being cut off…and NOW HE IS ON THE RUN! All because they found out the truth about MARTIAL LAW and the guillotines FROM ME and have agreed among themselves to NEVER GO ALONG WITH THIS TERRIBLE NWO AGENDA!
-Pamela Schuffert reporting live from NORTH CAROLINA
I was riding on a bus from BUTTE MONTANA to North Carolina, when I met a young man all dressed up in full and impressive ARMY RANGER uniform. He carried his 445 mag gun and many knives and several phones and military backpack and other equipment. He told me he was a STAFF SERGEANT from FORT LEWIS! Fort Lewis is where many MODERN GUILLOTINES have been stored for a long time, for use in martial law.
I teased him at first and told him I knew all about the MODERN GUILLOTINES in Fort Lewis. HE WAS SHOCKED! He said, 'HOW DID YOU KNOW…THIS IS HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!' He then admitted he was a Christian. I told him that the US MILITARY WAS NOT TELLING THE YOUNG MEN LIKE HIM, but these guillotines will be used on AMERICANS AND CHRISTIANS in the future udner martial law, to behead all NWO resisters.
The longer he listened, the angrier he got. Using a few choice expletives, he said, 'THEY NEVER TOLD US THIS WOULD BE USED ON AMERICANS UNDER MARTIAL LAW…to get RID of all CHRISTIANS and NWO RESISTERS! We THOUGHT they would be used in IRAQ or something!' He then asked me to tell him more and more. He even filmed me.
Finally, so angry at how they were being deceived and brainwashed, he told me,
'I WILL NEVER go along with this NWO agenda! I am A CHRISTIAN! I will contact my men in my platoon (64) and those I can trust who are Christians, I will tell them the TRUTH. I was supposed to go to Fort Hood for more SPECIAL OPS training next week, and THEN RETURN TO TRAIN MY MEN IN HOW TO OPERATE THESE GUILLOTINES!
There is a special underground training center where the guillotines are…we are not allowed to bring in any cameras. cell phones, etc, because of HIGH SECURITY AND SILENCE regarding these guillotines.They are 6 and a half feet high, with hand restraints and a place for a person's head as they stand. We were going to use dummies for practice…BUT NOW I AM REFUSING THIS ASSIGNMENT and I will contact the men under me who I can trust…who will NOT go along with this NWO agenda and will come out instead with HUMVEES, WEAPONS and everything we can get our hands on to fight this NWO agenda!'
We parted in Indianapolis…I wondered about the outcome. I was soon to find out! I called him the next day. He told me he talked to his sister and family and they were shocked…they were all military…they told him, 'HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS NWO MARTIAL LAW AGENDA…IT IS ALL HIGHLY CLASSIFIED!'
When he told them about ME (I had given him a copy of my AIRMAN MAGAZINE in it with my famous USAF father's cartoon in it..he was quite amazed and impressed) he told me his USAF aunt would submit my name to USAF intelligence computers to see where I stood in the sight of the USAF. He told me, 'She said you are RED FLAGGED (subject to arrest and interrogation) and are classified by the USAF as A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY!' (ME???A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY??? ALL for telling AMERICA THE TRUTH about coming MARTIAL LAW!)
This ARMY RANGER had told me that IF HE HAD BEEN ON THE SIDE OF THE NWO AGENDA, he was authorized as an ARMY RANGER with highest security clearance and much special ops training to MARCH ME OUTSIDE THE BUS AND SHOOT TO KILL for knowing this classified info…OR he could have called the nearest military base and had vehicles come to arrest me immiediately and take me away for interrogation and termination. THAT IS HOW CLASSIFIED MY INSIDE INVESTIGATING AND INFO REALLY IS! And YESTERDAY when I called him, he had even MORE shocking information for me.
'I AM ON THE RUN NOW…they are trying to pick me up…and my USAF sister too! OUR PAY AND MILITARY SERVICE AND BANK ACCOUNTS HAVE ALL BEEN CLOSED OFF…we cannot access anything now! THEY ARE NOW ARRESTING HALF THE MEN IN MY PLATOON…men I talked to who agreed that THEY WOULD NEVER GO ALONG WITH A NWO MARTIAL LAW AGENDA…all THEIR pay and service and bank accounts have been cut off from them now too….military helicopters and humvees are surrounding their homes..they are being watched and picked up one by one…one man in my platoon defended himself when they broke into his home, SHOOTING FIVE MILITARY SOLDERS TRYING TO TAKE HIM in the process ( some were killed) before they were able to arrest him! We are on the run now, my sister and I…they are after us too…..'
I am actively now on the phone with Staff Sergeant Donnie. His aunt who ran my name through USAF computers is now being questioned by USAF authorities. I am SURE they are angry with ME right now as well! They may be searching for me at this time as well….with this military scandal breaking and ME in the middle of it!
GET THIS WORD OUT TO EVERYONE! These brave military men are paying the highest price to say THEY WILL NEVER GO ALONG WITH THIS NWO MILITARY AGENDA to kill innocent Americans and to destroy our Constitution and our freedoms and people of faith and character in our nation. PRAY for Staff Sergeant DONNIE BOYSEL and his sister NOW and for the men they are now hunting down like dogs…to be interogated and KILLED! PRAY ALSO FOR ME! I may be picked up soon for my role in this military scandal.
PRAY FOR THE MERCY OF JESUS to preserve me through all this! FORWARD THIS BREAKING NEWS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST! And NOW YOU KNOW….the GUILLOTINES ARE REAL! (Revelation 20:4) He told me they ARE EVERYWHERE…in FORT HOOD, FORT BRAGG, FORT LEWIS..in ALL the US MILITARY BASES including GERMANY where he was stationed… (yes Europeans will be beheaded for their faith as well in the NEW WORLD ORDER!) PASS THIS ON AND PRAY FOR ME, FOR DONNIE AND HIS CHRISTIAN MEN THEY ARE HUNTING DOWN FROM FORT LEWIS! -Pamela Schuffert reporting LIVE from across the nation
"It is now TIME for the Christians of USA/CANADA to PREPARE for the COMING CRISIS. It will NOT be without PERSECUTION, TESTING and BLOODSHED. I dare say, in fact, that it is TIME for the Christians of North America to PREPARE FOR MARTYRDOM for their faith. END TIME BIBLE PROPHECY is about to unfold in this nation as NEVER BEFORE…and I can prove it!" -
~Pamela Schuffert,
Noted author, investigative journalist, lecturer, radio/television,and Christian evangelist
Lay off the sauce Pamela!
Dude, why did you even approve that crap?
Cause he is on the sauce too… LOL!
Because they are fun to laugh at. Besides, I'm not about censoring any but the most deserving!
Uh…has Pamela been smoking some of the funny cigarettes because that is just waaaaay over the top.
To say that people are "disappointed and concerned" about Obama's stupid plan doesn't even begin to cover the outrage. Any person in Congress who votes for such a plan is committing political suicide.
Hmm, I wonder what the liberals here are going to say.
I'm spitting mad too, but not surprised. Consider the source:
to him, our military just bombed villages and killed civilians.
he wants a civilian corps (what ever the hell that is, but coming from him it can't be good)
as big and strong as the military
he wants to get all his socialist democrat agendas pushed through – NOW
he's no second amendment fan
and you all wearing uniforms scare him.
I watched him give his blessing speech at the Dept of Veterans Affairs (CSPAN) and you know that he didn't write it – he ain't no Lincoln. It's worth it to watch the video to hear how he struggles saying god bless America at the end.
Cover your six ~
As a wounded warrior mother, who's son is already strapped beyond imagine because he cannot get into school or obtain a good job opportunity due to his TBI, I'm livid!!!
Who does he think he is? He is a coward in my eyes. I just keep looking at the sign I posted on my desk to get me through each day; 'We had to put up with Carter to get Reagan!'
God help us during the time in between.
I've got an answer for the 'alternative' way to raise the $540M and a lot more — gut and eliminate the Department of Education!
CJ as a retired veteran who's been in more conflicts than you can shake a stick at, I think you need to take a dose of shut the hell up!!
First and foremost you do not talk about YOUR cinc like that! You should know better and I hope the brass comes down on you hard for it.
I guess you forgot what they taught in boot camp about respect. I hope to god your not in a aiborne unit talking like that. Hopefully someone will forward your comments to your post CG and let him deal with you.
Mel, my chain of command is well aware of my blogging activities. No one needs to forward anything. I work closely with my command, the DA, and the DOD. I don't always agree with them and they don't always agree with me, but guess what? They know I'm free to say anything I want regardless of content. I haven't broken any rules here. I know what my rights are as well as my left and right limits. Thanks for your service, but please feel free to take a dose of your own medicine.
Mel, why do you support billing private insurance companies for VA health care? Won't that just incourage people to drop private insurance? Or is that the plan? … just asking …
This kinda makes Mrs Obama sound like that character in the Batman movies. Tommy Lee Jones played him. What was his name??? hmmm. . . Oh ya, Two Face!! I guess this is the way the Obamas feel the pain of today's Military Families. This is the way they will make sure that they're taken care of. Perhaps this is why Obama claims the Military will get a 2% pay raise. He wants to make sure they can "afford" the new "health plan" for vets. UGH!!!
And you all actually BELIEVE this is going to happen…
Lay off the Kool-Aide folks.
You know how these budget deal work. They were brainstorming on how to save money, somebody tossed this out, the thought for a second, laughed, and then moved on. Unfortunately, they had a secretary there recording it, and that got leaked.
They're not going to do it. We'd have a military rebellion on our hands if they did. And they know it. Even if Obama somehow did try to get this passed, it would never make it through congress. And even if somehow, someway, it did get done, the amount of men leaving the military would be catastrophic. Every single top leadership officer would resign.
Relax. This isn't going to happen.
Thanks, Bob, for providing a dose of reality. It must frustrate the heck out of the remaining Bushies that they actually have to search for things they can twist into red meat for the stupid and susceptible to devour!
The fact that his morals even allowed him to propose something like that should mean something.
"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion."
Doesn't sound like a joke to me.
Agreed, this stuff gets hashed out and occasionally makes news. I actually hope this type of discussion is going on as open frank discussion is how you get to a solution.
NY-David
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