Comments on: Switching from Google http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=switching-from-google Military Blog - A Soldier's Perspective Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:51:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Thomas Patrick Folan http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50326 Thomas Patrick Folan Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:53:28 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50326 Thank you Critical Facts. I'm quoting Becky Ackers column ' Does the American flag belong in church? Our allegiance belongs to God, not state power.' in the Christian Sci. Monitor: " No wonder the state wars against so potent an adversary. Its antagonism compelled America's Founding Fathers to decree, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The Founders weren't only insulating government from Christianity, as today's secularists insist; they also hoped to protect Christianity from the poison of political power. A free society flourishes because of its families, schools, marketplace and churches. If these become mere outposts of government, if the state subsumes them so that they advance its agenda rather than curtail its power, the country sinks into totalitarianism . And many support a war in Iraq that has killed tens of thousands and put civilians – including Iraq's brave but tiny Christian community – in great tribulation. Sadly, I have yet to hear any American church pray for Iraqis as they endure the persecution, poverty, and pain this war has inflicted. But congregants who are Americans first and Christians second often ask God to bless our troops on Sundays. " Ms. Ackers : You are wrong. WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS WRONG WITH AN AMERICAN FLAG IN A PLACE OF WORSHIP? I KNOW OF MANY HOUSES OF WORSHIP THAT HAVE NO AMERICAN FLAG OR THEY HAVE IT WHERE NO CAN SEE IT. ONE MORE THING MS. ACKERS. THE U.S. IS NOT TOTALITARIAN, AS YOU STATE IN YOUR COLUMN. PERHAPS MS. ACKERS WOULD PREFER TO SEE CHINESE,N.KOREAN, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQI OR RUSSIAN FLAGS IN AMERICAN PLACES OF WORSHIP. ONCE AGAIN THAT IS HER FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AS A MEMBER OF VETS FOR FREEDOM, I RESPECT HER VIEW. Speaking of FLAG DAY, Please let me post what I posted last year: I ask How? How could anyone want to burn the American Flag? H? H? How? H? How? H? If the policy of the government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court … the people will have ceased to be their own rulers." President Abraham Lincoln Abraham Lincoln once asked, "How many legs would a dog have if you called his tail a leg? The answer is four." The Supreme Court counted the tail when it said burning the flag was "speech." They were wrong. HOW? "The flag is the embodiment, not of sentiment, but of history. It represents the experiences made by men and women who live under that flag." President Woodrow Wilson, Flag Day, June 14, 1915 HOW ????????????? "We do honor to the Stars and Stripes as the emblem of our country and the symbol of all that our patriotism means. We identify the flag with almost everything we hold dear on earth. It represents our peace and security, our civil and political liberty, our freedom of religious worship, our family, our friends, our home. We see it in the great multitude of blessings, of rights and privileges that make up our country. But when we look at our flag and behold it emblazoned with all our rights, we must remember that it is equally a symbol of our duties. Every glory that we associate with it is the result of duty done. A yearly contemplation of our flag strengthens and purifies the national conscience (in that it symbolizes our Constitution)." President Calvin Coolidge, June 12, 1930 It is my principle that the will of the majority should always prevail." "I readily suppose my opinion wrong, when opposed by the majority." Letters from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787-88 The minority who support flag burners should heed Jefferson. HOW ???? "The fraudulent usurpation of our flag [is] an abuse which brings so much embarrassment and loss on the genuine citizen, and so much danger to the nation of being involved in war, that no endeavor should be spared to detect and suppress it." President Thomas Jefferson, 1st Annual Message, 1801 HOW ?? "It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." President James Madison Anyone who says burning the American flag is speech is not properly instructing our children. HOW ?? "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties." President Abraham Lincoln HOW ? Let the People Decide The Citizens Flag Alliance, Inc. "Surely one of the high purposes of a democratic society is to legislate against conduct that is regarded as evil and profoundly offensive to the majority of people – whether it be murder, embezzlement, pollution, or flag burning…" Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, Texas v. Johnson, 1989 HOW ??? "The American flag, then, throughout more than 200 years of our history, has come to be the visible symbol embodying our Nation. It does not represent the views of any particular political party, and it does not represent any particular political philosophy. The flag is not simply another 'idea' or 'point of view' competing for recognition in the marketplace of ideas. Millions and millions of Americans regard it with an almost mystical reverence regardless of what sort of social, political, or philosophical beliefs they may have." Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, Texas v. Johnson, 1989 HOW ???? "It passes my belief that anything in the Federal Constitution bars . . . making the deliberate burning of the America flag an offense." Associate Justice Hugo Black, Street v. New York, 1969 HOW ??????? "Our Constitution was not written in the sands to be washed away by each successive wave of new judges blown in by each successive political wind." Associate Justice Hugo Black, Turner v. U.S., 1970 "We know from our experience, that the surest way to preserve liberty is to protect the spirit that sustains it. And this flag sustains that spirit, and it's one of our most powerful ideas. And like all powerful ideas, if it is not defended, it is defamed. To the touch, this flag is merely fabric. But to the heart, the flag represents and reflects the fabric of our nation – our dreams, our destiny, our very fiber as a people." President George H.W. Bush, June 30, 1989 Remarks Announcing the Proposed Constitutional Amendment on Desecration of the Flag HOW ???????? "I don't believe destroying the American flag should be protected as freedom of speech and I supported efforts to let states ban flag burning as we did in Arkansas." President Bill Clinton NOTE: He changed his mind after becoming President. HOW ???????????????????? "One of the most enduring symbols of your sacrifice and service is our nation's flag. Brave Americans have fought and died to protect the ideals of democracy that it represents. That is why I strongly support a constitutional amendment protecting the flag from desecration – to honor our courageous veterans and to send the unmistakable message that Old Glory is a sacred symbol of freedom to all Americans." George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, March 24, 2000 Let the People Decide The Citizens Flag Alliance, Inc. 35 "In my considered judgment, sanctioning the public desecration of the flag will tarnish its value – both for those who cherish the ideals for which it waves and for those who desire to don the robes of martyrdom by burning it. That tarnish is not justified by the trivial burden on free expression occasioned by requiring that an available, alternative mode of expression — including uttering words critical of the flag… be employed." Associate Justice John Paul Stevens, Texas v. Johnson, 1989 HOW???????????????????????????? "The flag is a national property, the property of all the people." Associate Justice Byron White HOW???????????????????????????? "Burning and destruction of the flag is not speech. It is an act. An act that inflicts insult – insult that strikes at the very core of who we are as Americans and why so many of us fought, and many died, for this country. No, this is not a debate about free speech. Our flag stands for free speech and always will." U.S. Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) HOW ???????????????????????????? "Flag burning is not free speech. It is an act of hatred and nihilism. It is not a call for reform. It is a disgrace. The right to dissent does not include the right to desecrate. To desecrate the flag crosses a line of ugliness." U.S. Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.) "This flag means more than association and reward. It is the symbol of our national unity, our national endeavor, our national aspiration. It tells you of the struggle for independence, of union preserved, of liberty and union one and inseparable, of the sacrifices of brave men and women to whom the ideals and honor of this nation have been dearer than life." Associate Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1916 HOW? "I believe that the States and the Federal Government do have power to protect the flag from acts of desecration and disgrace." Chief Justice Earl Warren, Street v. New York H? How could anyone burn or desecrate this great country's Flag? HOW? HOW? How? Protect America's Flag NOW ! Support & Join Citizen's Flag Alliance: Citizens Flag Alliance, P.O. Box 361625, Indianapolis, Indiana 46236 http://www.cfa-inc.org THIS JULY 4th, FLY THOSE COLORS. Don't be ashamed of the U.S. flag ! On June 21, 1968 I became a U.S. citizen. I'm from Bessboro, Blackrock, County Cork , Ireland. I served proudly in the U.S. Naval Reserve. I'm forevever indebted to this great country for what she has done for me. I'm proud of the flag of the United States of America. I'M PROUD TO BE AMERICAN Thank you Critical Facts.
I'm quoting Becky Ackers column '
Does the American flag belong in church?
Our allegiance belongs to God, not state power.' in the Christian Sci. Monitor: "
No wonder the state wars against so potent an adversary. Its antagonism compelled America's Founding Fathers to decree, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The Founders weren't only insulating government from Christianity, as today's secularists insist; they also hoped to protect Christianity from the poison of political power. A free society flourishes because of its families, schools, marketplace and churches. If these become mere outposts of government, if the state subsumes them so that they advance its agenda rather than curtail its power, the country sinks into
totalitarianism .
And many support a war in Iraq that has killed tens of thousands and put civilians – including Iraq's brave but tiny Christian community – in great tribulation. Sadly, I have yet to hear any American church pray for Iraqis as they endure the persecution, poverty, and pain this war has inflicted. But congregants who are Americans first and Christians second often ask God to bless our troops on Sundays. "
Ms. Ackers : You are wrong.
WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS WRONG WITH AN AMERICAN FLAG IN A PLACE OF WORSHIP? I KNOW OF MANY HOUSES OF WORSHIP THAT HAVE NO AMERICAN FLAG OR THEY HAVE IT WHERE NO CAN SEE IT.
ONE MORE THING MS. ACKERS. THE U.S. IS NOT
TOTALITARIAN, AS YOU STATE IN YOUR COLUMN.
PERHAPS MS. ACKERS WOULD PREFER TO SEE CHINESE,N.KOREAN, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQI OR RUSSIAN FLAGS IN AMERICAN PLACES OF WORSHIP.
ONCE AGAIN THAT IS HER FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
AS A MEMBER OF VETS FOR FREEDOM, I RESPECT HER VIEW.

Speaking of FLAG DAY, Please let me post what I posted last year:

I ask How? How could anyone want to burn the American Flag? H? H? How? H? How? H?
If the policy of the government upon vital questions
affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably
fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court …
the people will have ceased to be their own rulers."
President Abraham Lincoln
Abraham Lincoln once asked, "How many legs would a
dog have if you called his tail a leg? The answer is four."
The Supreme Court counted the tail when it said burning
the flag was "speech." They were wrong.
HOW?
"The flag is the embodiment, not of sentiment,
but of history. It represents the experiences made
by men and women who live under that flag."
President Woodrow Wilson, Flag Day, June 14, 1915
HOW ?????????????
"We do honor to the Stars and Stripes as the emblem
of our country and the symbol of all that our patriotism
means. We identify the flag with almost everything
we hold dear on earth. It represents our peace and security,
our civil and political liberty, our freedom of religious
worship, our family, our friends, our home. We see it in
the great multitude of blessings, of rights and privileges
that make up our country. But when we look at our flag
and behold it emblazoned with all our rights,
we must remember that it is equally a symbol of our duties.
Every glory that we associate with it is the result of
duty done. A yearly contemplation of our flag
strengthens and purifies the national conscience
(in that it symbolizes our Constitution)."
President Calvin Coolidge, June 12, 1930

It is my principle that the will of the majority
should always prevail."
"I readily suppose my opinion wrong,
when opposed by the majority."
Letters from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787-88
The minority who support flag burners
should heed Jefferson.
HOW ????
"The fraudulent usurpation of our flag [is] an abuse
which brings so much embarrassment and loss
on the genuine citizen, and so much danger to the nation
of being involved in war, that no endeavor should be
spared to detect and suppress it."
President Thomas Jefferson, 1st Annual Message, 1801
HOW ??
"It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people
alone can be permanently free."
President James Madison
Anyone who says burning the American flag is speech is
not properly instructing our children.
HOW ??
"Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution.
That must be maintained, for it is the only
safeguard of our liberties."
President Abraham Lincoln
HOW ?
Let the People Decide The Citizens Flag Alliance, Inc.
"Surely one of the high purposes of a democratic society is
to legislate against conduct that is regarded as evil and
profoundly offensive to the majority of people – whether it
be murder, embezzlement, pollution, or flag burning…"
Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, Texas v. Johnson, 1989
HOW ???
"The American flag, then, throughout more than
200 years of our history, has come to be the visible
symbol embodying our Nation. It does not represent the
views of any particular political party, and it does not
represent any particular political philosophy. The flag is
not simply another 'idea' or 'point of view' competing for
recognition in the marketplace of ideas. Millions and
millions of Americans regard it with an almost mystical
reverence regardless of what sort of social, political,
or philosophical beliefs they may have."
Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, Texas v. Johnson, 1989
HOW ????
"It passes my belief that anything in the
Federal Constitution bars . . . making the deliberate
burning of the America flag an offense."
Associate Justice Hugo Black, Street v. New York, 1969
HOW ???????
"Our Constitution was not written in the sands to be
washed away by each successive wave of new judges blown
in by each successive political wind."
Associate Justice Hugo Black, Turner v. U.S., 1970
"We know from our experience, that the surest way
to preserve liberty is to protect the spirit that sustains it.
And this flag sustains that spirit, and it's one of our most
powerful ideas. And like all powerful ideas, if it is not
defended, it is defamed. To the touch, this flag is
merely fabric. But to the heart, the flag represents and
reflects the fabric of our nation – our dreams, our destiny,
our very fiber as a people."
President George H.W. Bush, June 30, 1989
Remarks Announcing the Proposed
Constitutional Amendment on Desecration of the Flag
HOW ????????
"I don't believe destroying the American flag should be
protected as freedom of speech and I supported efforts to
let states ban flag burning as we did in Arkansas."
President Bill Clinton
NOTE: He changed his mind after becoming President.
HOW ????????????????????
"One of the most enduring symbols of your sacrifice
and service is our nation's flag. Brave Americans have
fought and died to protect the ideals of democracy that it
represents. That is why I strongly support a constitutional
amendment protecting the flag from desecration – to honor
our courageous veterans and to send the unmistakable
message that Old Glory is a sacred symbol of
freedom to all Americans."
George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, March 24, 2000

Let the People Decide The Citizens Flag Alliance, Inc. 35
"In my considered judgment, sanctioning the public
desecration of the flag will tarnish its value – both for those
who cherish the ideals for which it waves and for those who
desire to don the robes of martyrdom by burning it. That
tarnish is not justified by the trivial burden on free
expression occasioned by requiring that an available,
alternative mode of expression — including uttering words
critical of the flag… be employed."
Associate Justice John Paul Stevens, Texas v. Johnson, 1989
HOW????????????????????????????
"The flag is a national property,
the property of all the people."
Associate Justice Byron White
HOW????????????????????????????
"Burning and destruction of the flag is not speech.
It is an act. An act that inflicts insult – insult that strikes
at the very core of who we are as Americans and why
so many of us fought, and many died, for this country.
No, this is not a debate about free speech.
Our flag stands for free speech and always will."
U.S. Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.)
HOW ????????????????????????????
"Flag burning is not free speech. It is an act of hatred
and nihilism. It is not a call for reform. It is a disgrace.
The right to dissent does not include the right to desecrate.
To desecrate the flag crosses a line of ugliness."
U.S. Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.)
"This flag means more than association and reward.
It is the symbol of our national unity, our national
endeavor, our national aspiration. It tells you of the
struggle for independence, of union preserved, of liberty
and union one and inseparable, of the sacrifices of
brave men and women to whom the ideals and honor of
this nation have been dearer than life."
Associate Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1916
HOW?
"I believe that the States and the Federal Government
do have power to protect the flag
from acts of desecration and disgrace."
Chief Justice Earl Warren, Street v. New York
H? How could anyone burn or desecrate this great country's Flag? HOW? HOW? How?
Protect America's Flag NOW !
Support & Join Citizen's Flag Alliance:
Citizens Flag Alliance, P.O. Box 361625, Indianapolis, Indiana 46236

http://www.cfa-inc.org

THIS JULY 4th, FLY THOSE COLORS.

Don't be ashamed of the U.S. flag !
On June 21, 1968 I became a U.S. citizen. I'm from
Bessboro, Blackrock, County Cork , Ireland.
I served proudly in the U.S. Naval Reserve.
I'm forevever indebted to this great country
for what she has done for me.
I'm proud of the flag of the United States of America.
I'M PROUD TO BE AMERICAN

]]> By: Ex-Googler http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50259 Ex-Googler Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:42 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50259 Also, what I just noticed was Bing has an easy-to-access feedback feature unlike Google. So if you have input or a dislike or whatever then you can actually send it to Microsoft. Google makes it unusually difficult to send them feedback. I suspect Bing wants to perfect user-searches so offering a feedback feature helps to streamline the process. Also, what I just noticed was Bing has an easy-to-access feedback feature unlike Google. So if you have input or a dislike or whatever then you can actually send it to Microsoft. Google makes it unusually difficult to send them feedback. I suspect Bing wants to perfect user-searches so offering a feedback feature helps to streamline the process.

]]> By: Mary http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50185 Mary Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:37:46 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50185 I'm liking the bing! Been putting it through the paces and it's working out just fine. I'm liking the bing! Been putting it through the paces and it's working out just fine.

]]> By: GunnNutt http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50181 GunnNutt Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:43:30 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50181 CF, I think you are confusing societal norms with judicial preference. Last time I looked, "the people" have no say in how SCOTUS forms opinions. I'm for term limits on the courts, too. CF, I think you are confusing societal norms with judicial preference. Last time I looked, "the people" have no say in how SCOTUS forms opinions. I'm for term limits on the courts, too.

]]> By: Critical Facts http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50180 Critical Facts Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:39:56 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50180 Oops. Got me there, cj. I confused the due process and equal protection clauses for a moment, both of which have a rich history of interpretation depending on current societal norms. Oops. Got me there, cj. I confused the due process and equal protection clauses for a moment, both of which have a rich history of interpretation depending on current societal norms.

]]> By: CJ http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50178 CJ Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:37:26 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50178 CF, what does the 5th Amendment have to do with equal protection and vice versa? Good thing CF doesn't stand for "Constitutional Facts". CF, what does the 5th Amendment have to do with equal protection and vice versa? Good thing CF doesn't stand for "Constitutional Facts".

]]> By: emily http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50175 emily Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:16:51 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50175 CF-leave me out of your conversation. CF-leave me out of your conversation.

]]> By: Critical Facts http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50167 Critical Facts Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:45:46 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50167 CJ: After your wife finishes pummeling you, come back and tell us again how the equal protection clause of the 5th Amendment does not flex and bend according to societal norms. CJ:

After your wife finishes pummeling you, come back and tell us again how the equal protection clause of the 5th Amendment does not flex and bend according to societal norms.

]]> By: Mary http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50165 Mary Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:44:04 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50165 CF, we're just talking search engines here...I don't think it's quite as all that... CF, we're just talking search engines here…I don't think it's quite as all that…

]]> By: NY-David http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/14/switching-from-google/#comment-50164 NY-David Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:07:46 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5411#comment-50164 I'm as patriotic as the next guy, but Google gets me what I need. My company converted all browsers to use Bing and I don't find it as accurate. I don't use them for news as I like to cull my own and don't need someone to do it for me. NY-David I'm as patriotic as the next guy, but Google gets me what I need. My company converted all browsers to use Bing and I don't find it as accurate. I don't use them for news as I like to cull my own and don't need someone to do it for me.
NY-David

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