Comments on: What do we make of "plume crud" http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/ Military Blog Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:40:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Casey http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50444 Casey Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:02:15 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50444 It doesn't matter how poorly the soldiers are treated or how many of them die, as long as more fresh meat is ready to go to boot camp for 9 weeks and sign up. So if you want better treatment for existing soldiers, make it harder for the pigs to find new grunts by getting rid of moral conduct waivers and ceasing the recruitment of the impoverished and undereducated. Pretty simple really. Any kid joining today has little ground to stand on as far as complaints about treatment once in. Its pretty cut and dry that a bunch of rotten bastards run the Pentagon and the U.S. military recruitment efforts. It doesn't matter how poorly the soldiers are treated or how many of them die, as long as more fresh meat is ready to go to boot camp for 9 weeks and sign up. So if you want better treatment for existing soldiers, make it harder for the pigs to find new grunts by getting rid of moral conduct waivers and ceasing the recruitment of the impoverished and undereducated. Pretty simple really. Any kid joining today has little ground to stand on as far as complaints about treatment once in. Its pretty cut and dry that a bunch of rotten bastards run the Pentagon and the U.S. military recruitment efforts.

]]> By: CRAZEDCHEF http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50437 CRAZEDCHEF Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:57:16 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50437 Hello again, I forgot to mention that I spent 5 months at the RPC in 2006 (Radwaniyah Palace Complex) where that poor Green Beret was electrocuted. I was once shocked in the shower, scared the crap out of me considering that I was standing in water. I knew something was definitely out of whack. I made it known to Superiors, they laughed. Just told everyone not to use that shower. p.s. The above posts about the water purification in no way defends KBR, I just wrote what I experienced first hand. We in water did our best to make sure everyone was protected and was delivered a safe product. crazedchef time for another pain pill........ Hello again,

I forgot to mention that I spent 5 months at the RPC in 2006 (Radwaniyah Palace Complex) where that poor Green Beret was electrocuted. I was once shocked in the shower, scared the crap out of me considering that I was standing in water. I knew something was definitely out of whack. I made it known to Superiors, they laughed. Just told everyone not to use that shower.

p.s. The above posts about the water purification in no way defends KBR, I just wrote what I experienced first hand. We in water did our best to make sure everyone was protected and was delivered a safe product.

crazedchef

time for another pain pill……..

]]> By: CRAZEDCHEF http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50436 CRAZEDCHEF Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:46:03 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50436 Hello again, I forgot to mention that the ROWPU unit is a multi-stage water purification unit. ALL OF THE WATER goes through multiple filtration steps BEFORE it even gets to the RO membranes. p.s. still hate AIG Hello again,

I forgot to mention that the ROWPU unit is a multi-stage water purification unit. ALL OF THE WATER goes through multiple filtration steps BEFORE it even gets to the RO membranes.

p.s. still hate AIG

]]> By: CRAZEDCHEF http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50435 CRAZEDCHEF Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:40:36 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50435 Hello, I agree 100% with the burn pits being a health hazard but I disagree once again with the whole "waste water" term and contaminated water routine. The one base where there was trouble with no chlorine residual in the water tanks and the KBR whistle blower who testified before congress (he could not hack the country and wanted to be famous, he was and is full of it) was actually being run by the Army. KBR did not run a ROWPU at that site. Also the "waste water" is NOT blackwater. It just refers to the municipal water that is run through the ROWPPU that is rejected. The TDS is lowered to bring it up to drinking standards for the Army. The "reject" is tested and chlorinated, it just has a higher TDS count. I get my water from a well that taps into a limestone aquifer and the TDS is comparable to the "waste water" that everyone keeps making a big deal out of. I showered and brushed my teeth EVERY DAY for 34 months with this so called "waste water" with no ill effect other than dry skin because the chlorine we put in was so much higher than the States to maintain the residual in the desert heat. p.s. I am fighting AIG (money grubbing sons of camels) for medical benefits now for well over a year and my trial still does not come up for another three months. I need multiple surgeries for torn meniscus in both knees & herniated discs in multiple places in my back. I live with constant pain and my condition has grown far worse than what it was when I came home. crazedchef still waiting............... ROWPU = Reverse Osmosis Water Purification unit TDS = Total Dissolved Salts AIG = (the whores of Babylon), nay the fleas of a thousand camels infest their nether regions Hello,

I agree 100% with the burn pits being a health hazard but I disagree once again with the whole "waste water" term and contaminated water routine. The one base where there was trouble with no chlorine residual in the water tanks and the KBR whistle blower who testified before congress (he could not hack the country and wanted to be famous, he was and is full of it) was actually being run by the Army. KBR did not run a ROWPU at that site. Also the "waste water" is NOT blackwater. It just refers to the municipal water that is run through the ROWPPU that is rejected. The TDS is lowered to bring it up to drinking standards for the Army. The "reject" is tested and chlorinated, it just has a higher TDS count. I get my water from a well that taps into a limestone aquifer and the TDS is comparable to the "waste water" that everyone keeps making a big deal out of. I showered and brushed my teeth EVERY DAY for 34 months with this so called "waste water" with no ill effect other than dry skin because the chlorine we put in was so much higher than the States to maintain the residual in the desert heat.

p.s. I am fighting AIG (money grubbing sons of camels) for medical benefits now for well over a year and my trial still does not come up for another three months. I need multiple surgeries for torn meniscus in both knees & herniated discs in multiple places in my back. I live with constant pain and my condition has grown far worse than what it was when I came home.

crazedchef

still waiting……………

ROWPU = Reverse Osmosis Water Purification unit

TDS = Total Dissolved Salts

AIG = (the whores of Babylon), nay the fleas of a thousand camels infest their nether regions

]]> By: Marcus http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50321 Marcus Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:36:19 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50321 Good to go, then. I'll retract my statement. I just tend not to trust anything posted on DKos. Good to go, then. I'll retract my statement. I just tend not to trust anything posted on DKos.

]]> By: BrokeSnake http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50308 BrokeSnake Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:39:25 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50308 Here is a link on <a href="http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/06/military_burnpits_12months_062409w/" rel="nofollow">the subject</a> from the Army Times. "Concern about burn-pit exposure began when Military Times launched <a href="http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_burnpit_102708w/" rel="nofollow">an investigation</a> last October, citing a document from Air Force Lt. Col. Darrin Curtis, former bioenvironmental flight commander for Joint Base Balad in Iraq." I appreciate the service of our fellow troops just like I know most all who read this blog. The purpose of writing the post is to bring up something that has been proposed in the Legislature.... awareness. We can argue the issues all day long, but I can't understand why you want to argue my method of delivering it. DailyKos had the story, I cited it. I don't enjoy the lion's share of their work either, but they had the story. Aside from that, the issue is real and there were other methods of discovering that than just the Dkos post. Here is a link on the subject from the Army Times. "Concern about burn-pit exposure began when Military Times launched an investigation last October, citing a document from Air Force Lt. Col. Darrin Curtis, former bioenvironmental flight commander for Joint Base Balad in Iraq."

I appreciate the service of our fellow troops just like I know most all who read this blog. The purpose of writing the post is to bring up something that has been proposed in the Legislature…. awareness. We can argue the issues all day long, but I can't understand why you want to argue my method of delivering it. DailyKos had the story, I cited it. I don't enjoy the lion's share of their work either, but they had the story. Aside from that, the issue is real and there were other methods of discovering that than just the Dkos post.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2009/06/25/what-do-we-make-of-plume-crud/#comment-50307 Marcus Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:02:32 +0000 http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=5454#comment-50307 Did you really site DailyKos as the source for this post? I would advise all readers to take this with a rather large grain of salt. I never heard of these so called pits during my time in Iraq nor have I heard about them from Marines I work with. Did you really site DailyKos as the source for this post? I would advise all readers to take this with a rather large grain of salt. I never heard of these so called pits during my time in Iraq nor have I heard about them from Marines I work with.

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